(SEPT 1) On August 26, 2006, at the Emperor Garden, in Budapest, Hungary, and
promoted by SlimTrax Promotion, Krisztina Belinszky, 102.5, won by decision
(points) over Marianne Chubirka, 111¼. It did not take long
for the controversy to surround this bout.
WBAN received noticed that Marianne
Chubirka had posted on Dee Williams Forum stating the following:
"Tonight my heart is heavy and I feel a little stupid for taking
this fight in Hungary...I guess I really didn't believe I could
dominate an opponent (read: win EVERY round) and just be ROBBED
...WOW...it wasn't even a hard fight for me...other than the fact
that she was holding on to me for dear life (while I was warned for
it?)...I EASILY won this...not even close...at the end of the fight
they just declared her the winner...no judges...only the referee
scored the fight...it is so sad that I work hard and this
happens...I will not let it get the best of me..."
Related story of fight
results of Belinzsky vs. Chubirka that took place last night in
WBAN posted a story on this fight, and at the end of the story,
since the bout was becoming a "He Said...She Said.." bout that if
anyone who saw this fight, and would like to send their comments or
observations to email WBAN.
We then received a statement from Chubirka's manager, Bobby Dobbs.
WBAN listed this as a story, called, "A Birdseye view by manager of
Chubirka. Linked Story dated
August 27, 2006.
On August 30, 2006, we received an official statement by Team
Belinszky. In this statement they said that the bout will be televised on Saturday, and according to the
agreement with the www.profibox.hu
website it'll be downloadable only after that, so we're not hiding
anything because we don't need to hide anything, as the
important bouts of Krisztina are all downloadable from the internet.
WBAN suggests that this may be what boxing
fans need to do to check out the fight itself when it is available
for download on this site.
WBAN has also received a RESPONSE
from TEAM CHUBIRKA, in regards to TEAM BELINSZKY's Official
Statement. Bobby Dobbs sent in this reponse.
There are certain items that people can
differ on opinions from, but the statement just released by
Belinzsky's camp contains blatant lies. I don't even know
where to start.
When we arrived in Budapest there was no one to pick us up, no one
would answer the phone number we had and the hotel had no
reservation under our names for us.
Marianne and I were in the process of trying to change our tickets
to leave on the next flight when after two hours someone finally
showed up. It is a shame we didn't just leave, this would have been
much less of a headache.
The only thing I agree with in their statement is that Marianne came
in overweight. She should have made the weight, but relied on a
scale at the hotel as being accurate and missed the target.
If she had been asked she would have willingly gone back to the
I felt as her manager that due to the distance of the sauna and the
time it would take to go there and back that we should just handle
this by accepting a monetary fine. The Hungarians said that no fine
was necessary and were very cordial about it. I later found out why.
The statement about the gentleman's agreement not to put on weight
after the weigh-in is just false. There was never any discussion
whatsoever about her rehydrating herself. I would have never agreed
to such a thing.
I would also like to point out that Marianne weighed 108 in her last
fight which proves she is capable of making that weight and the
overage was not intentional.
Another complete lie told in that statement was that we demanded the
payment of the purse upon arrival. We never asked for, implied, or
hinted to be paid prior to the fight. Nothing remotely like that
However, the worst lie told in that statement is that I
"acknowledged defeat". Immediately after the fight I shook their
hand out of sportsmanship. As soon as the verdict was announced I
went to the commission table and demanded to see the scorecard. I
then told the referee to his face that he is a "disgrace" (among
I then had a long argument with the woman who runs the commission,
and then in the dressing room another argument with Zoltan Kiss Jr.
I clearly expressed my outrage to every single person I came in
contact with in Hungary after the fight. For them to write
that...shows they are just liars.
I have taken fighters to four European countries. Germany, Ukraine,
Denmark and Hungary. I have only had a problem in one of them. I
guarantee you any other promoter I have worked with in those other
countries would have no problem with us fighting there again.
But, in Hungary there is a certain level of corruption that is worse
than anything I have ever been involved with. In my opinion these
people are running a fight fixing scheme.
The best way for the truth of this fight to be revealed is for them
to release the tape as promised. I don't think it will happen. I
think that tape will end up "accidentally erased" or severely
I hope that after the video is made available that WBAN readers will
have a chance to comment on the bout and make up their own minds.
Why is it out of the four fighters who have faced Kristina recently,
Dobbs, Moss, Chubirka and Ramnarine, that every single one of them
has a problem there? Is it just a coincidence? Are they that
unlucky? I urge every intelligent person to make up their own mind.
Bobby Dobbs -
September 1, 2006
I've read Your request for information regarding the recent
Belinkszy v Chubirka bout held in Budapest. I'd like to state
in advance that I'm an editor of
www.profibox.hu, thus a collegaue of JollyDee, nevertheless,
here's my opinion:
I've seen the fight and no way it was a robbery, it wasn't even
close. There's not much to tell about it, as it'll be downloadable
from our website this weekend (a TV channel will be showing it on
Saturday, and we agreed not to share it until that). What really
caught my eye was Mr. Dobbs' baseless, aggressive and offensive
accusations both on the site and in the forums about JollyDee, the
whole event, and my country. What shocked me even more was your
official comment about "controversies" in Hungarian events which you
published when You haven't even seen the fight in question.
You said "This is not the first time that there has been controversy
surrounding fighters coming from other countries, and fighting in
Hungary, and specifically fighting Belinszky."
May I point out that there are about 50 fighters from abroad
fighting in Hungary every year, and generally every fighter (there
are some exceptions of course, but I think You have to agree that's
not unique) goes home telling that he/she was well treated, all
except Mr. Dobbs. It is funny that every time Mr. Dobbs comes to
Hungary, he claims his fighter was robbed, I wonder if that's just a
coincidence... Of course it's easy to keep a good reputation of his
fighters overseas with accusations like these "explaining" otherwise
clear losses, knowing that most people would agree with him over
people from a small European country automatically, even without
watching the fight. This so far was kept at the level of Internet
forums, with You declaring that the " Information provided and
opinions expressed by others do not necessarily represent the
opinion of WBAN".
However, with Your official comment speaking about "controversy"
without having seen the bout, thus "blindly" agreeing with your
fellow American manager, I think you've stepped over a certain
border. May I kindly ask You to refrain from comments like these in
the future. I have nothing against a different opinion about a
fight, but I find it quite interesting that You already have an
opinion about it (no offense). As I said, the bout will be made
downloadable soon, and until that any discussion about the fight is
pretty much senseless and can only spark unnecessary tension.
WBAN's Response: Peter, I
will be happy to publish your comments. I think you may have
misunderstood me saying it was without controversy. When I say
the controversy surrounds the fact that we have people, both sides,
JollyDee, Dobbs, and Chubirka, all saying something conpletely
contrary to each other. And yes, there were previous controversies
with the other fights with Belinszky. That is a fact, if you review
any of our archived news stories.
Sue TL Fox
Past Controversial Stories: Re: Belinszky vs. other boxers
Dobbs/end of report
- Open Letter
Response to letter -
Ramnarine - Controversial open letter
Ramnarine open letter
Pre-Fight report - Ramnarine still in London
The other side of the story - Belinszky
Open Letter from Team Belinszky