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"The creator of WBAN (Women Boxing Archive Network), 
Sue TL Fox boxed from 1976 - 1979, and is now  a "retired" police officer as of 2008, from the State of Oregon....WBAN has assisted and continues to assist many television Shows, news media with supplying research, interviews, and putting them in contact with women boxers.  WBAN also assists promoters and matchmakers in putting together great women's boxing matchups! 
Fox Talks about her beginnings in the sport when BOXING IN THE LATE 70's was NOT cool!  (Special Story by Fox - Life After Breast Cancer Full Story)

1977-1978
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I found out about female boxing
when I watched the news one day in October of 1975.  They were broadcasting the results of a female bout that had just taken place the night before between boxers, Caroline Svendsen, 34, and Jean Lang, 35.   The news revealed that the fight was the first sanctioned female bout in the State of Oregon.    When they reported that the women were paid to fight, it immediately hit me that I was actually paying to fight in karate tournaments!

  The next day, I started calling around to the boxing gyms to find out how a person would go about becoming a boxer.  I ended up talking to a guy who managed fighters.    He immediately volunteered to take me under his wing as a manager. Little did I know,  my newly-found manager did not appear to have my interest at heart.   He told me that he would get me a fight with a girl by the name of Theresa "Red Star" Kibby.   He said that Kibby had never had a fight, had been only boxing casually for two years and was not in very good shape.   

It was quite a publicity gimmick--female black belt against female boxer.   The news media went into a frenzy about the match and did several feature stories about the upcoming fight.   There was quite a bit of hype over the whole ordeal.   My newly-found "manager" never even bothered to get me a boxing trainer.   He let me continue to train at my karate school with my karate instructor---no boxing ring, no proper boxing equipment—nothing. The fight was set to go on February 12, 1976, four months from the date it was scheduled.

Two days before my fight, I began to read newspaper articles in the local papers about my opponent's background.  I quickly found out that Kibby had not been boxing for two years---she had been boxing for close to thirteen years with her two brothers, who were also professional boxers.    In fact, one of the brothers was listed on the same boxing card as Kibby and me.   

After I got over the shock of the unexpected information,  I immediately called my manager to find out why he had not told me the truth. He tried to calm my fears.   He then "sprung" another new piece of information on me.  He told me that the fight would be four three-minute rounds, not two-minute rounds as originally agreed upon. I quickly figured out that "he was definitely the best man on their team."   

Needless to say, this was no "Rocky" story, and the bout was a disaster. The referee stopped the fight in the third round, after I was too stubborn to fall down.     What was unfortunate for me and for other martial artists was that everybody thought that I would win because of being a black belt. They did not realize that I had been duped, and by taking away my powerful leg kicks, I was just a "bad boxer."

I did recoup from my "not-so-great" start in professional boxing.  I moved down to California to get into a boxing gym with a competent boxing trainer and manager.   I found a gym in Westminster, California, that World Welterweight Champion, Carlos Palomino trained at.  The first day I walked in, I approached one of the trainers, and asked him if I could use the gym to train.   He reluctantly said that I could.  I told him that I would start the following day.

The next day,  I took my equipment to the gym and started warming up.  All of the male fighters completely ignored me. They walked to the shower area in their underwear, acting like I did not exist.  After about a half hour or so, one of the trainers approached me and asked me if I wanted to go four rounds with one of their fighters.   I was eager to do that because I thought, "all right" they are going to accept me in the gym.    I put my headgear and gloves on, my sparring partner got his equipment on, and we proceeded to spar four three-minute rounds. This little fighter who was much lighter than me, probably a bantamweight, proceeded to kick the wholly daylights out of me, even with a head gear on.   I got body punched, hooked, and who knows what else during those four rounds.

At the end of the fourth round, my body felt like someone had just put me through a meat grinder.  I was exhausted, and shocked at what a beating I just took.  Even though I was hurting, I went to my sparring partner and shook his hands while still gloved up. I thanked him for sparring with me, and told him that I would like to spar with him the following day.  Little did he know that,  THAT was  the last thing  I wanted to do!

The next day before going to the gym, I dreaded having to face him again in the ring.   I knew that if I failed to show up at the gym that I would never save face in the gym.  I decided then that if I had to take a "licking" everyday from those fighters, I would. I loved boxing that much.

The following day, I walked in the gym, ready to take my punishment. To my amazement, the guy that beat me up the previous day was not there. I cannot even begin to tell you how relieved I was, and I didn’t care to ask why he was not in the gym.  After about a week of not seeing him though, my curiosity got the better of me and I asked one of the trainers  what happened to him. He proceeded to tell me that my "sparring partner" was  instructed to KNOCK ME OUT, and that when he was unable to do that, he was too humiliated to return to the gym. I never saw that fighter again.

 I trained for about nine months in Carlos Palomino's gym, and during that entire time, I did not have one conversation with Carlos other than, "Hi and bye."  His trainer did finally break down and say one thing to me.   I was thrilled when he called me over to the side of the ring while I was sparring with someone.   I immediately went to where he was standing and he told me that he wanted to give me a word of advice.   He proceeded to tell me that if I could not "at least" jog five miles a day, to quit boxing.  Palomino's trainer woke me up with that startling statement.  I was running about three miles a day, but it was obvious to him that it was not nearly enough.  From that day forward, I added another three miles on the road at night.            

Even though I did receive a little notoriety as a boxer, there were many setbacks in the 70's,  during my boxing career.  One of the major setbacks for me and other female boxers was  when CBS made an offer to me and other top contenders.   They wanted to sign us for a one-year contract, guaranteeing us three national fights, paying us $15,000, whether we fought or not.   They later withdrew their offer after the feedback from the public was not well received after the CBS televised nationally a Welterweight Championship fight between Teresa Kibby and Lavonne Ludian at the Aladdin Hotel in Las Vegas, Nevada on April 16, 1977.  What they didn't know was that even though Ludian had the flu and was very ill, that she fought anyway.  

Another setback for my career, was when I was offered a fight with Lavonne Ludian, and her manager would not accept a rematch with me at the Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas in 1977.  I had fought her previously in  Lake Tahoe which apparently was her home town.  The fight was a draw, but some of the folks in Las Vegas thought I had won the fight.   They offered her $5,000, and $2,500 to me to have this rematch.

I decided to hang up the gloves after it became obvious that female boxing was starting to die out.  I went back to college to pursue my dream of becoming a police officer.   I worked different jobs, until I finally was hired in 1990 as a police officer.  

I also pursued other ambitions, playing music professionally singing,  playing keyboards and bass guitar in various bands. 

Other highlights.. Undefeated Full-Contact fighter earning two Northwest Championships, 1977-1978;  three years amateur competition in Karate tournaments, with about 30 plus entered tournaments, before boxing professionally. Earned black belt in 1975; 1976-First woman in the State of Washington to obtain a boxing license; 1977-First woman licensed in State of Utah; and 1976-First woman licensed in the State of Montana.  Ranked #1 in the world by the WBB and WBBA as a welterweight (Champion spot was vacant); Ranked #2 Welterweight 1978; Ranked #3 in 1977. TL FOX'S RANKING

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