TL Fox: Did you see
the Laila Ali vs. Jacqui Frazier fight?
Trimiar: Yes, I did. I thought the fight was extremely
exciting. I enjoyed it very much. The skill level was not of what I
would like out of seasoned fighters, but they were not seasoned, so
for what they gave, it was worth it. The people were excited, they
stood up and cheered, and boxing fans got their moneyís worth.
TL Fox: Do you think that this particular event helped
Trimiar: Yes, absolutely---yes. Because a lot of people
who were not interested in womenís boxing, that were interest in
Ali/Joe Frazier, would be interested in the daughters. It just
brought massive attention to womenís boxing.
TL Fox: What emotions or thoughts did you go through when
you watched the Laila/Frazier fight, and seeing the success of this
high-profile womanís bout?
Trimiar: I had a lot of mixed emotions. It brought back
very good memories and some not so good. I was very happy for them
though. I just remember when the media was very negative about
women's boxing, or would not cover it at all.
TL Fox: Laila Ali said that she would like to help other
women boxers, which is a sharp contrast to Christy Martinís
remarks about how she is only in the sport for herself --- do you
have any opinion on that?
Trimiar: Yes, I do. I have a very strong opinion. When I
heard Martin for the first time say those things, I slumped down in
my chair in sadness. Here I was willing to do anything to help the
sport, including going on a hunger strike
for something that I felt so strong about. I was passionate
about it. I feel that when you promote yourself, you have to promote
ALL women in itófor everyone.
TL Fox: Jackie Tonawanda was interviewed just prior to the
Laila/Frazierís fight. The commentator began his interview by
introducing Tonawanda as "THE" pioneer of womenís boxing, and she
agreed with him without mentioning you or any other women boxers in
What was your feelings about that?
Trimiar: Well to be honest, I did not expect her to
mention me, because that is how our relationship has been. When we
tried to work together, we couldnít work together, because it was
either her way or "no" way. I did try very hard with
TL Fox: When the commentator on the Laila/Frazier fight
said to Jackie Tonawanda that she had a 36-1 (36KO) record, what was
Trimiar: When I heard it I just went "Wow". I
wished that the commentator would have asked her who she had fought,
and name some of her opponents. Then she needs to prove that. The
only fight I knew of her being in was against Diane Clark, and she
lost that fight. Then she did this exhibition thing at Madison
Square Garden with the male kickboxer.
TL Fox: Did you see that exhibition fight with Tonawanda
and the kickboxer?
Trimiar: Yes, with my mother and father.
TL Fox: Did it seem like a "ferocious" fight
between Tonawanda and the male kickboxer?
Trimiar: No. It did not seem to be a very competitive
match. He wasnít very aggressive. Also, the fight was not a
boxing match, so she canít count it as if it is boxing. Just
like I canít count the times that I went to Japan and boxed a
TL Fox: When you did see Tonawanda in the gym, and work out
with her, did she EVER ONCE talk about some of these opponents she
had KOíd with this stellar record?
Trimiar: No, I donít recall her ever talking about who
she had fought, and anytime you try to start probing about it, she
would shut you down.
TL Fox: Some of the public felt it was unfair because Laila
and Frazier got all of this "Hyped" attention, and that
the cream of the crop of women boxers were not getting these
opportunities, what is your opinion?
Trimiar: There are a lot of other women boxers that ARE
struggling. I could imagine myself and being frustrated, but with
them capitalizing on their fathersí name, I donít see anything
wrong with that. I really donít. If you have a famous family
member and they are a movie star and doors are opening for
you---take advantage of it---Itís a short life.
A special thanks to Trimiar for taking the time to be
Sue TL Fox - June 15, 2001
BIOGRAPHY OF "LADY"
Tyger was the best of the best"
70's - 80's fighter - by Sue TL Fox
Lady TygerShe had a dream.
. .since the age of 10 years old, she visited the neighborhood gyms and watched
fighters spar each other. She watched boxing on television. One day she told people at the
gym that she wanted to be a boxer, and to have a trainer. Lady Tyger remembers that when
she expressed that dream to others, they just laughed.
When Lady Tyger first went to the gym to
work out, she was matched with a guy that pounded on her in the ring. A not to not
unfamiliar event that happened to females who wanted to start training in a boxing gym.
When Lady Tyger returned the next day, she won their respect.
LADY TYGER started seriously
training at 18, after graduating from Julia Richman High School in Manhattan. She said she
has fought a total of 25 official fights, winning all but four with an "off and
on" career over the past 12 years. In 1979, she won the Womens World
lightweight championship from Sue "KO" Carlson in San Antonio, Texas.
LADY TYGER was sure that
womens boxing was going to be very big in a couple of years and she vocalized
that belief to all that who would listen. Little did she know or could have predicted that
she would go through years of turmoil and disappointment in the sport of
A true pioneer of female boxing, in
1987, she carried on the cause to the extent of going on a well-publicized "hunger
strike" for a month to advocate better money and conditions for professional female
boxers, even though she was protesting for others and not herself. All that Lady
Tyger strived for was equality among how boxers were paid and treated, whether they were
male or female. She directed that hunger strike towards Don
King, the current
manager of Christy Martin and other female fighters. In defense of Don King, even
then, he openly vocalized that he was for female boxing.
Lady Tyger Trimiar was the first woman
to apply for a boxing license in New York State. After a long drawn out lawsuit, Lady
Tyger, Jackie Tonawanda, and Cathy "Cat" Davis were the first women to be issued
a boxing license. They were side-by-side together at the same time to receive that
license, even though Cat Davis, was physically "handed" her license first, they
were actually all THREE issued a license at the same time. Because Cat Davis was handed
her license first, she was pegged as the "First woman" to get her New York
license, but in reality, Lady Tyger applied for her boxing license first with New York
State, and technically should have received it first on that day. She even protested
the fact that Cat Davis was handed her license first, and the whole ordeal had
suspicious political overtones to it.
Lady Tyger was truly one of the greatest female boxer in
the 70s and 80s. She fought exhibitions fights before it was legal to box in
sanctioned bouts. She stayed in the fight game from 1973 until 1987, accumulating
over 25 professional bouts. Her fame in the 70s and 80s even reached the
Smithsonian Institute, when one day she received a letter from them, requesting remnants
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